From: a0cb@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Chris Bertholf) Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling Subject: Wrestling FAQ (Last FAQ 'til Nov.) 68Kbytes Message-ID: <5766@pdxgate.UUCP> Date: 22 Jun 92 19:18:53 GMT Article-I.D.: pdxgate.5766 Sender: root@pdxgate.UUCP Organization: Portland State University, Computing Services Lines: 1316 Note: The MiniFAQ is now the FAQ. It is 68K in length. After much deliberation, and many suggestions begging for additional information to be included, I have included the following two lists in the FAQ: wrestling relations wrestlers personas, real names, ages, and years in pro-wrestling Neither of which was compiled by me, although I have added and/or modified a few of the entries in the wrestling relations list. I hope this will keep everyone happy and contented until my return from Europe on October 5th. ------------------------begin included text-------------------------------- Rec.Sport.Pro-wrestling: Frequently Asked Questions Monday, June 22, 12:00:00 PDT, 1992 Compiled by: Christopher Forrest Bertholf Portland State University Portland, Oregon Q. "What are the beginnings of professional wrestling?" "Who was the first professional wrestling 'Worlds Champion'?" William Muldoon, during the decade 1870-80, waas considered the world's first professional wrestling champion. After 1900, he was followed by Frank Gotch, considered the peer of all time because of the science he imparted to the sport. He defended hist title against all challengers and retired undefeated. Ben F. Roller of Seattle won the U.S. championship in 1912 and the world's title in 1913 by defating Americus. Ed (Strangler) Lewis defeated Roller in New York city in 1915, and Earl Caddock in 1921. Wayne Munn beat Lewis in Kansas City in 1925. Stanislaus Zbyszko defeated Munn in Philadelphia in 1924; Jospeh Stecher beat Zbyszko in 1925; Lewis defeated Stecher in 1928; Gus Sonnenberg defeated Lewis in Boston in 1929, winning the world's championship. Thereafter there were numerous claimants to the title, but no undisputed champion. Q. "Who is the Ultimate Warrior?" "What is the Ultimate Warrior's background?" "Did the Ultimate Warrior die, and who is his replacement?" The Ultimate warrior is JIM HELLWIG -- Always has been. He did NOT die. He is not Steve DiSalvo (see below). Hellwig received his first major exposure in Memphis in November of 1985. He wrestled under his real name, with Steve Borden (Sting), as The Freedom Fighters (originally a face team). They turned heel after about 3 weeks, stuck around Memphis for about a month, and then moved to Mid-South and started Power Team USA (with Garland "Glory" Donoho and Mark "Commando" Miller) as James "Justice" Hellwig and Steve "Flash" Borden. After this stint, James "Rock" Hellwig and Steve "Sting" Borden formed a team called the "Blade Runners". After this, Hellwig had a stint "The Dingo Warrior" down in Texas working for the Von Erichs. Warrior came into the WWF in July, 1987, after leaving Von Erich country. He was alternately billed as The Warrior and The Dingo Warrior during that first month at house shows, much like Papa Shango came in as "Sir Charles" in December 1991. When Vinnie decided to give him a push, he became the Ultimate Warrior, began his TV stint with one or two squashes on a syndie in October, a BIG win over Frenchy Martin (replacing Bob Orton, who had left the organization) at a televised MSG card, and THEN went on to get tossed in the ten-man battle royal. He competed in the Nassau Coliseum Bunkhouse Brawl in January, 1988, and began his first significant feud (I don't qualify Steve Lombardi complaining about losing to him in an issue of WWF Magazine a legitimate feud) with Hercules, culminating in the only non-title singles match in Mania Four. During the last half of '91, up to WMVII, Jim Hellwig was under suspension from the WWF. He had a money dispute with Vince, and Vince suspended him indefinitely. Because he had a contract with Vince, he couldn't work for anyone else until the contract expired. It was rumored that he would be back in the WWF for WrestleMania VIII. He did in fact return, quite a few pounds lighter than when he left. He appears to have given up the juicing and is receiving a mega push towards becoming the number one face in the WWF. Q. "Who is the Diamond Studd?" The Diamond Studd is Scott Hall (He is NOT Steve DiSalvo!) Scott Hall began wrestling in 1984(?) as Starship Coyote, part of the tag team American Starship, with Starship Eagle (Dan Spivey) in the Central States area. He moved from there to the AWA, where he received a major push, receiving title shots against Stan Hansen, and winning the tag team belts with Curt Hennig from Steve Regal and Jim Garvin. They lost the belts as a result of a "screw job" ending when Doug Somers and Buddy Rose defeated them via a countout, with the help of Col. DeBeers. This set up a feud between Hall and DeBeers, which lasted until Hall left the federation. Hall toured the minor promotions after this with stops in Florida and Puerto Rico, unitl he finally resurfaced in WCW as the Diamond Studd. Q. "Who is Steve DiSalvo?" Steve DiSalvo used to be the local joke. His name will still pop up as the answer to almost all stupid/uninformed questions asked on this newsgroup. Steve has wrestled mainly out of Calgary. The Steve DiSalvo thing was started by Sean P. Ryan, when he mentioned that the Studd resembled Steve. Some other posters immediately took this to be the explanation for the different looks of Scott Hall, and began posting "The Diamond Studd is not Scott Hall... It's Steve DiSalvo" type posts. This was the beginning of a massive joke campaign by regulars to r.s.p-w of answering all uninformed questions about the identity of any wrestler with "It's Steve DiSalvo!". The Steve DiSalvo joke has really died down lately. Every once in a while people still post a reference to Steve, which is intended to invoke the humorous thoughts we all shared in the summer of '91 at Steve's expense. The basic joke usually plays out like: Uninformed poster: "Who is ?" Jokester: "Steve DiSalvo :^)" Uninformed poster: "Did the first Ultimate Warrior really die?" Jokester: "Yes. He was replaced by Steve DiSalvo :-)" Q. "What are all of the references to Amanda Ultimate Warrior about?" "Who is Amanda Ultimate Warrior?" [From Sean P. Ryan] In June of 1990, they had an interview with then-champ UW on the syndies. I think it was Brother Love. At any rate, they brought out a girl, who identified herself as Amanda Ultimate Warrior, Slim Jim's niece. It started a running gag here on the newsgroup (I believe originated by Charlie Gavinelli) which probably ranks behind Steve DiSalvo and ahead of myself and beer and marriage for bandwidth expended. Q. "Who are the Von Erichs?" "Whats the deal with Kerry Von Erich's leg?" "Whats the deal with all of the deaths in the Von Erich family?" "Is Lance Von Erich really a Von Erich?" To begin with, there are no "REAL" Von Erichs. The Adkisson family has used the last name "Von Erich" for their wrestling personas for years. The first of the Von Erichs was Fritz, who wrestled in the 50's and 60's with a German gimmick, complete with goosestep and claw hold. Fritz enjoyed quite a bit of success, holding the AWA title in the early 60's, and challenging for the WWWF title in the later 60's. He held the US tag team title with Waldo Von Erich in 1967. Waldo Von Erich (sorry, don't know his real name) is not an Adkisson. He wrestled around the same time as Fritz, forming a tag team with him. Fritz Adkisson had six sons, five of whom were involved with wrestling. The eldest son, Jackie died of electrocution at age 6 in 1959. Kevin Von Erich began wrestling in the early 70's. He enjoyed great success, but rarely competed outside of Texas. In Texas, he held the WCCW North American title, the Texas title, the tag team title (with Kerry), the Texas Tag Team title (with David), and the six man belts on many occasions throughout the mid-80's. He also held the Missouri Heavyweight title in the early 80's. Kevin is currently wrestling for independent promotions. David Von Erich began wrestling in the late 70's, enjoying great success in Texas and the NWA. He held many belts in the WCCW, plus held the Missouri Heavyweight title. In 1982, he traveled to Florida where he wrestled as a heel and held the Southern Heavyweight championship. (This is the only case I have come across of one of the Von Erich sons wrestling as a heel.) According to resident historian Gary Will, he was probably scheduled to beat Harley Race for the NWA title in November 1983, but then Crockett came up with the idea for Starrcade and Jack Adkisson/Fritz Von Erich (who was on the NWA board) agreed to postpone David's title reign until 1984. David was given the Missouri title instead (he beat Flair for the belt in 1983). David was being prepared to be a major star in the NWA. After Flair beat Kerry for the title, he held it, uninterrupted for over two years. Had David won the title, he probably would have traded the belt with Flair during that time. Sadly, David died of an intestinal infection while working in Japan (2/10/84). It has been rumored that he actually died of a barbituate/booze combination overdose (reported by Irv Munchnick in Penthouse magazine). Kerry Von Erich began wrestling in 1980. He also has enjoyed great success in Texas, plus major success in the two big federations. On May 6, 1984, Kerry defeated Ric Flair for the NWA title at Texas Stadium, at a memorial card for David. This made Kerry and Fritz the only father/son duo to hold world championships. He lost the title back to Flair on May 24 in Japan. In 1986, Kerry Von Erich's leg was screwed up in a motorcycle accident. It is now fused solid at the ankle. It is his right leg. There is controversy WRT whether or not he actually has a foot on his right leg, due in part to a match in Las Vegas where Col. DeBeers removed his boot, and it was reported there was no foot in the boot, only a stump. This rumor is unsubstantiated to date. Kerry became involved in a feud with Jerry Lawler for the AWA title in 1988. This feud resulted in the creation of the Unified title, which was supposed to join the WCCW Heavyweight and AWA Heavyweight. Kerry lost the unification match to Lawler in December 1988 at the AWA's one and only PPV event. In 1990, Kerry joined the WWF and almost immediately was granted a shot at Curt Hennig's Intercontinental belt. He defeated Hennig for the belt at SummerSlam in just over five minutes. He lost the title back to Hennig a few months later. Recently, Kerry disappeared from the WWF. This was because he had been arrested for forging a prescription to obtain drugs in Texas. He recently returned to the ring, I don't know the outcome of his arrest, or what drugs he was attempting to obtain. Mike Von Erich began wrestling in 1984. He enjoyed moderate success in WCCW, but never wrestled elsewhere. Mike died of a Placidyl (depressant/ muscle relaxant) overdose (4/13/87). Mike had a serious bout with Toxic Shock Syndrome, and when he returned to wrestling, he was "only a shadow of his former self" (If I may borrow a Monsoonism); Mike realized that that he could not be the star he was expected to be (by the fans, and by Fritz); This is the most often cited reason for why he may have taken the Placidyl overdose which caused his death in 1987. Chris Von Erich began wrestling in the late 80's, and, to my knowledge, never held any titles. Chris died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head at age 21 9/12/91. Rumor has it that Chris also felt he could not "live up" to the Von Erich name, to which his death is directly attributable (very similar to the story about Mike). To recap, the two remaining Von Erich children (of Fritz) are Kevin and Kerry. Lance "Von Erich" is really Ricky Vaughn. He is not an Adkisson. Lance was brought into the promotion, and Fritz stated at the time that he was a "cousin" of his boys. Later, when Lance left to work elsewhere, Fritz publicly announced that Lance was not really a relation to the Von Erichs, in an attempt (that worked) to ruin the name Lance Von Erich, as far as wrestling circles go. In addition, after Lance Von Erich (sic) was forced out of the Von Erich family (sic), he temporarily used the name "The Fabulous Lance" while wrestling in Texas. Unfortunately for Fritz, the buildup and ties he had made to Lance were not forgettable by the marks, and it really pissed them off. Both announcements about Lance's "REAL LINEAGE" were stated by Fritz on WCCW broadcasts. One of the bigger "Von Erich Scandals" to date. Last I heard, Ricky Vaughn was still wrestling in the south somewhere, and he had a title. Sorry I can't be more specific. The Last time I personally saw him, he was the Pacific Northwest Champion, about 5-6 years ago. Q. "Where did Vince find Jimmy Hart?" Hart made his debut in wrestling on the Memphis TV show on August 26, 1979, as the new manager of Lawler. This relationship didn't last long, and would lead to the years-long feud that kept Memphis strong in the early 80s. Basically, Lawler broke his leg and was out for a while. They brought in Ken Patera, Hart jumped ship, and when Lawler came back that was used as the setup for the feud. During that time, Hart was allegedly still aligned with Lawler, yet he brought in Paul Ellering and called him "The King." When asked for his rationale in committing such sacriledge, Hart explained "Well, when a horse breaks his leg, you shoot him, right?". At this point, Lawler disowned Jimmy, saying that Hart had never been his manager, just his "cheerleader". Hart ended up managing Terry "Hulk" Boulder, who feuded with Lawler, in some of Hogan's better matches to date. One famous match has Hogan and Lawler in a cage, another has Hogan and Lawler in a strap match, Hogan losing by DQ, when Jimmy Hart interferes with his cane/walking stick. After that Hulk went to the WWF, and not much later, Jimmy Hart followed. The rest is common knowledge. Q. "How long was Buddy Rogers WWF Champion?" "What is the story behind the forming of the WWWF?" Buddy Rogers lost the NWA title to Lou Thesz in Toronto on January 24, 1963. The promoters in the Northeast U.S., led by Vince McMahon Sr., formed the WWWF. The reason given was that they felt that Rogers was robbed and they weren't going to recognize Thesz as champion, instead recognizing Rogers. In reality, however, McMahon was the business manager of Rogers during his title reign and felt that Rogers had an incredible potential as champion well beyond the time frame that the NWA actually gave him to be champion. The main misconception associated with this is that Rogers was recognized as champion right after losing to Thesz, hence the notion that he held the title for 3 months or so. In reality, Rogers was awarded title recognition in mid-April of 1963. He lost the title to Bruno the following month. Rogers would have likely had a long reign as champion, however, he suffered a heart attack shortly before the match with Bruno. This explains both the brevity of the match with Bruno and the subsequent disappearance of Rogers from the ring (he retired after this match, and didn't return until 1967). Q. "Are Randy 'Macho Man' Savage and Mrs. Elizabeth really married?" Randy Savage (Randall Poffo) and Elizabeth Poffo are indeed married. It did not happen in the wrestling ring the first time. Randy Poffo and Elizabeth Hewlett were were officially married November 30, 1984; Several years prior to "The Match Made in Heaven," which was just a gimmick by Vincent McMahon used as a draw for SummerSlam '91. Elizabeth is rumored (read RUMORED) to be a niece of Vince McMahon's. Q. Are Randy "Macho Man" Savage and The Genius (Leapin' Lanny) really related? Yes. Their real names are Randy Poffo and Lanny Poffo; They are Brothers. Their father is Angelo Poffo, a pretty good wrestler in his day. Q. "Are Hulk Hogan and Brutus Beefcake really brothers?" Hulk Hogan (Terry Bollea) and Brutus Beefcake (Ed Leslie) are not brothers. They did wrestle together as brothers a long time ago, but that was just an angle for the marks. Terry is responsible for getting his buddy Ed into the WWF. Q. "Where is Hulk Hogan?" Hulk Hogan is on vacation from the WWF so that he can make movies. He will probably return in around 6 months to a year (Triumphantly, to his little Hulkamaniacs that the Warrior kept safe all those many months :-). Q. "What ever happened to Brutus Beefcake?" "Whats the deal with the accident involving Brutus Beefcake?" Brutus Beefcake was involved in a boating accident last year that smashed his face. He has undergone massive plastic surgery to correct the problem and has several steel reinforcing plates in his head. Several months ago, Vince wanted to bring Brutus back. The idea was to bring him back with a head full of steel, but his doctors poo-pooed this idea stating that severe damage could result if he were to receive a blow to the face. Brutus came back dressed in a furry mask for a while (he made some run-ins, lambasting several heels) and then started up the "Barber Shop" on the syndies. Still no definite word on when he will return to wrestling or if he will return to wrestling. He may be relegated to hosting "The Barber Shop" until he retires from wrestling permanently. Q. "Where is Ric Flair?" "Why is Ric Flair in the WWF now?" Ric Flair is no longer in the WCW, but he left holding the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. He came to the WWF, with his belt. He OWNED the NWA World Heavyweight Championship belt at the time. Ric Flair was still recognized as the legitimate NWA worlds champion by many of the independent/NWA affiliated promoters (like Owen promotions in the Pacific N.W.) until WCW put pressure on the NWA to get Flair's belt back. The ownership of the belt and the right to be called the "NWA Undisputed Heavyweight Champion" was debated in the halls of civil justice, with Flair and WCW coming to a formal out of court settlement, the exact details of which I am unaware of. Rumor has it that Ric Flair's settlement with the NWA/WCW to sell his belt back cost WCW somewhere in the neighborhood of $50,000. His contract with WCW was not renewed due to quibbles over money--Ric wanted more than they were willing to give. WCW's letting go of Ric was considered by many to be the death knell of the organization (WCW), which was already going downhill before the ultimate transgression of firing "The Man". This is no longer the general sentiment, as Kip Allen Frey took over the "presidency" of the WCW; He made some great changes, in an attempt to bring the organization back to the wrestling that made it famous, and integrating better marketing concepts to help it compete with the WWF. Kip Allen Frey, after a successful stint as president, has been replaced by Bill Watts (Cowboy Bill). We will have to wait and see if the changes he makes are positive. His first few changes sounded OK (Less PPVs, better talent) but then he made a ruling that "off the top rope maneuvers" would "result in a dsiqualification". The decision is still out on Bill. When Ric entered the WWF, he won the World Heavyweight Championship Belt at Royal Rumble '92. He held it until he was defeated by Randy "Macho Man" Savage at Wrestlemania VIII. Randy and Ric are programmed for a long running battle. Q. "When did Vince Jr. take over the (W)WWF from Vince Sr.?" Vince Sr. died in May 1984, but he had turned over control of the business to his son some months earlier. The positioning of Titan Sports as a national promotion was carried out by both McMahons. Vince Jr. would do the dirty work (signing wrestlers away from Ole Anderson, for example) while his father would assure the other promoters that they were not going national. Of course they did go national, and the rest is history. According to an article in the March 25, 1991 issue of Sports Illustrated, Vincent McMahon Jr. states that his father would have never have allowed him to overrun other promotions and their feifdoms. I.e., It is question- able whether or not Vince Sr. was aware that Vince Jr. really was going to go national with the WWF, and he may not have misrepresented himself to the other promoters, based on what he believed the WWF was headed for. Just some food for thought... Q. "How many horsemen were there in the NWA?" Well, they were always called the FOUR horsemen, but the FOUR was comprised of different people at different times. By my count, there have been 10 men in the FOUR HORSEMEN over time: I used to count 8, but I have been convinced with "incontrovertible evidence" that the last two on the list were horsemen for 1 week. Slick Ric Flair, Double A (Arn Anderson), Tully Blanchard, Lex Lugar, Barry Windham, Sid "Vicious" Eudy, The Stinger, Ole Anderson, Kendall Windham, and Butch Reed. Q: "What are these Dreamcards all about?" The Dreamcards were cards promoted and booked by Don Becker. Becker usually solicited match ideas from others on the net, posted a complete card, then solicited results. All booking decisions, however, were made by Don alone. Recently, between cards IV and V, Don turned promotional duties over to the Stilt Man. So far, there have been six Dreamcards, which he has put out on a monthly basis: Dreamcard I (November 11,1991) Main event: Sean Ryan vs. Herb Kunze Dreamcard II: This Wednesday in Walla Walla (December 7, 1991) Main event: Sean Ryan vs. Herb Kunze Dreamcard III (January 27, 1992) Main event: Sean Ryan vs. Fluffy The Wonder Bunny Dreamcard IV: The Price of Pain (February 25, 1992) Main event: Sean Ryan vs. John Price Dreamcard V: The Great White North Main event: Rematch of Sean Ryan vs. John Price Dreamcard VI: ???? Main event: John Price vs. Herb Kunze The Dreamcards are cards promoted and booked by Don Becker. Becker usually solicits match ideas from others on the net, posts a complete card, then solicits results. All booking decisions, however, are made by Don alone. Q. "What are the Bandwidth Brawls?" Brian Wawczak puts on the Bandwidth Brawls to coincide with WCW SuperBrawls, and put on a Bandwidth Mania to coincide with WrestleMania. Q. "What is the FWF?" The Fictional Wrestling Federation is wholly seperate in its organization from Dreamcards, Bandwidth Brawls, and other such things. It is a federation of fictional characters, angles, and matches written by the Stilt Man, Jason Steeves, and Liam Kelly. The matches are written and posted in fairly random order and in a great amount of detail. More often than not, they have very little to do with any real-life federations or anything else on the net, although the FWF has been known to emulate wrestlers for spoof value (example: Big Truck Vader or the Sheepwhackers) or serious contention (such as taking WWF gimmicks such as Hulk Hogan or the Undertaker and improving their workrate so that it matches their interviews). The FWF has no affiliation with any email wrestling federations, is totally open to original suggestions, and is run mostly by Stilt Man (singles) and Jason Steeves (tag teams). Liam Kelly is a co-writer, and Sean Ryan is the unofficial "archivist" who keeps track of old matches in his directories. The matches are totally fictional, and have little or no relation to the world of professional wrestling. The posts always have FWF in the subject line, so those wishing to mark and save or skip the articles can do so easily. Q. "What is the real story behind Lex Luger leaving WCW?" (From Herb Kunze) Luger's disappearance from WCW has nothing to do with his health and much to do with his lack of love for the business. WCW's contract with Luger runs through until 1993. The contract guarantees Luger a salary per year and gives a maximum number of dates that he'll have to work per year. This second part is not uncommon. When WCW originally brought in Stan Hansen and Big Van Vader, they eventually signed them to a deal where the wrestler would work 100 dates out of the year. That left them free enough to work their Japanese shows. Anyhow, in Luger's case, nobody could anticipate Ric Flair jumping ship, and when that happened, the company had to choose between Luger and Sting as champion. Sting blew his run as a champion in 1990 from a financial point of view, so they went with Luger. Suddenly Luger is working more dates. The second year of his three year contract runs from March 1991 to March 1992. By the end of 1991 he's already worked the number of dates specified in his contract. So, he has every legal right to sit on his ass and not work any more shows, and WCW still has to pay him his salary through until March 1992. If he had any love for the business or some interest in his future or the future of the company, he might be a little more flexible. As it is, he says he won't work any more shows. That's no TV tapings. That's no Clashes. Nothing. Furthermore, his love for the business is so small that he tells WCW he wouldn't mind leaving the company when the second year of his contract runs out. They negotiate and reach a settlement wherein Luger agrees to work one final show (SuperBrawl II) and drop the title to Sting and WCW agrees to let him leave the company (probably with a cash settlement) with the proviso that he can't work as a wrestler for any other North American promotion until March 1993. Luger is now in the WBF, Titan Sports' Body Building Federation. Rumors abound WRT whether or not he will wrestle in the WWF after March of 1993, when his (rumored) contractual obligation to WCW expires. Q. "What happened to Tully Blanchard?" Tully has given up professional wrestling and become an evangelist; Preaching the way of the Lord, the evils of drugs, and the evils of steroids, on a regular basis. Rumor has it that he is happy, and has no plans of ever returning to the squared circle. Q. "Where is J.J. Dillon these days?" J.J. Is working in a front office job with the WWF. Q. "What is the story behind the WWF 'King'?" A little after the first Wrestlemania, the WWF advertised a "King of the Ring" Tournanment. JYD won by countout over Randy Savage (heel, fairly new to the WWF) in the first tournament. Ever since then, they have been having the King of the Ring Tournament every summer, though not much (if any) publicity is given to it. Race came into the WWF and won the tournament. He declared himself the King of the WWF. They never explained that he won the tournament, but the WWF still had a coronation for him. When Race left, they announced he was hurt in a match against Hogan (despite wrestling later at the Wrestlemania IV battle royal). Haku became the next king of the WWF (chosen by Bobby Heenan to replace Harley Race). At Royal Rumble, Haku battled Harley Race for the title of King. Haku won with a karate style kick and stayed King. Haku started "defending" the crown. He Lost to Jim Duggan, who had a coronation, he defended the crown before losing to Macho Man. Savage was a heel at that time, and for a while became the "Macho King". After using his scepter to cost Ultimate Warrior the title, Macho lost the loser retires match at WM VII. No further mention of the crown has been made to this date. Q. "What ever happened to Bruiser Brody?" "Whats the story behind Brody's death?" Bruiser Brody was killed in Puerto Rico by Jose Huertes Gonzales (he was acquitted, but all but admitted his guilt by taking place in an angle with Atsushi Onita that paralleled the incident). Supposedly, Brody was stabbed for refusing to do a job. He was stabbed three times, including one stab to the liver. The official cause of death was bile poisoning. Q. "Have any wrestlers held belts in the AWA, NWA/WCW, and WWF in the last 15 years?" Yes. Only three wrestlers have done it since 1977. The Legion Of Doom (Hawk and Animal -- The Road Warriors) (WWF, AWA & NWA TAG) Larry Zbyszko (AWA WORLD, WWF & WCW Tag) Q. "Who is Larry Zbyszko?" "What is Larry Zbyszko's real name?" Larry Zbyszko is really Larry Whistler. He took his wrestling name from Stanislaus Zbyszko (one of the original greats in the sport). Interestingly enough, Stanislaus was not even a real Zbyszko; His name was really Stanislaus Cyganiewicz. There have been several wrestlers who have used the names of former stars, e.g. Karl Gotch took his last name from Frank Gotch, Stan Stasiak was originally a wrestler in the 1920s, and Paul "Kato" Diamond took his name from the similar looking Paul Diamond that wrestled in the 60s and 70s. Q. "Who was 'Lord Humongous'?" The first Lord Humungous was Mike Stark who used the gimmick in Memphis in 1984. Jeff Van Kemp played the role in Alabama starting that same year and then went to Mid South in '85. Van Kemp walked out in '86 rather than be jobbed out. Around the same time frame, John Gavin used the Lord Humungous gimmick in Texas. Sid Eudy (Sid Viscous/Justice) wrestled as Lord Humungous for Continental in 1987. Q. "Is it 'Jushin Riger' or 'Jushin Liger'?" Jushin Riger is also Jushin Liger. The name comes from the concatenation of Lion and Tiger, and thus would properly be "Liger". However, the Japanese do not make a distinction between the consonant sounds "L" and "R", and actually seem to use an intermediate sound for both "L" and "R". When you watch Japanese wrestling, it sounds like the people are screaming "Rye-gar" and so some prefer to use the "Riger" spelling, while others prefer the "Liger" spelling. [From Herb Kunze:] The name is supposed to mean something like God of Lions and Tigers. "Jushin" means god of animals. I guess "Liger" is supposed to be the combination of Lion and Tiger. I think those that read his name in sheets or see him on WCW will write Liger and pronounce is "Lye-ger", and those that have seen a few of his matches will be swayed to say "Rye-gar" and maybe spell it Riger. Q. "What was the NWF?" "What happened to the NWF?" "What was the IWA?" "What happened to the IWA?" [From Sean P. Ryan:] The promotion called the NWF was run out of Cleveland, with Pedro Martinez as promoter (Martinez promoted Buffalo in the 50s and 60s). Around 1973 or so, Martinez was bought out by Antonio Inoki. Very shortly thereafter, Inoki beat Powers for the NWF title, and it didn't take long after that for the promotion to go under (I guess the fans didn't buy Inoki as the top guy in the promotion). Inoki took the title back to Japan, and used it as sort of a world title for many years. Inoki defended it sparingly before retiring it in 1981. His opponents in title defenses included Powers, Tiger Jeet Singh (who won the title and lost it back to Inoki in 1975 or 1976) and Stan Hansen. Inoki also had a title vs. title match with WWWF champion Bob Backlund in 1978. Back to the U.S., Martinez set up a new promotion in Cleveland in 1975 with much help from Chicago White Sox owner Eddie Einhorn. This was called the IWA, and lasted for two years before folding (mainly because Einhorn tried to use the promotion to compete with the WWWF). To today's fans, an item of interest from the promotion has to do with two of their jobbers. One of them was a teenager named Terry Mecca. Those of you with good memories will recall that this person is now Terry Gordy, and that he was only 14-years-old back then. The other jobber of interest was Jim Wilson, who was part of the 20/20 expose back in 1985. Wilson worked for the IWA after his blackballing from the NWA. Q. "In the last 10 years have there been any wrestlers who have held titles in any 2 federations (including only NWA/WCW, WWF and AWA)?" Yes. There have been 22 (from BIG JOMOSH): Ric Flair Ricky Steamboat Greg Valentine Rick Rude Mike Rotundo Barry Windham Larry Zbyszko Dick Murdoch L.O.D. Animal L.O.D. Hawk Curt Hennig Rick Martel Smash/Krusher Krushchev Jimmy Garvin Kerry Von Erich Sgt. Slaughter Stan Hansen Roddy Piper Arn Anderson Tully Blanchard Dennis Condrey Mr. Saito Q. "What ever happened to Adrian Adonis?" It took place on July 4th, 1988 in Newfoundland, near Gander and Lewisporte, on the Trans Canada Highway. The accident involved a mini-van which contained Adonis, Dave "Wildman" McKigney and the Kelly Twins. The van came upon a moose in the road and swerved to avoid it, going down a ~10-15' embankment into a pond. The slippery conditions complicated matters, and are probably partially responsible for the accident. The fact that they swerved at all should not be put into question. There are more people killed by hitting several tons of moose than are killed by missing them. Adonis and McKigney were killed, as well as one of the Twins. The other Twin had his legs crushed in the accident, and obviously hasn't returned to wrestling. Adonis had just come off a Japan tour, his first since leaving the WWF, and was working for McKigney while waiting to start for Stampede. Rural Newfoundland was, is, and forever will be a hotbed of wrestling. The unfortunate thing is that the people seldom, if ever, get to see a live house show. Adrian was providing "name" entertainment at a time of the year when "No" entertainment is the rule. Q. "Was Adrian Adonis really a homosexual?" NO. "Adorable Adrian" was a homophobic character invented by the tasteless Vincent J. McMahon, played by the happily married and heterosexual Adrian Adonis (Quite well, I might add). This shouldn't matter to anyone elightened above cro-magnon level, but it gets asked enough that it was suggested by several people that it should be in the MiniFAQ. Q. "Who or what is this Jamison character in the WWF?" Jamison is a nerdish-type character who regularly attended WWF Prime Time Wrestling tapings (on USA cable in the United States). He was kicked and stomped on by most WWF heels, and was saved by many WWF faces. At the Royal Rumble he had the distinction of kicking the Genius in the shin, and booting him out of the ring with a swift kick to the ass. Jamison is supposedly a comedian from the Stamford, CT area... It looks like Vincent's latest tasteless/stupid gimick is here for a while. Recent syndies have not had any Jamison spots, so maybe (PLEASE!) his contract with the WWF was not renewed and we will be spared his inane antics. Q. "What happened to Ravishing Rick Rude?" Rick Rude was fired over a money dispute with Vince. Rick felt he deserved a take of the gate proceeds where his name had been used as the draw, but where he did not wrestle. What he ended up with was nothing. Vince would not schedule him for matches and would not let him out of his contract either. The result was Rick didn't wrestle or make any money for quite a while. Rick Rude is currently wrestling with WCW, and has already won a title (U.S. Heavyweight Champion). He is currently being worked into a program with Sting, to fight over the WCW World Heavyweight Championship Belt. He is also working a program with Ricky Steamboat, with Steamboat attempting to take the U.S. Heavyweight Championship Title away from Rude. Q. "What happened to Ricky 'The Dragon' Steamboat?" He jumped the WWF ship and was rescued by the WCW. He wrestled against Rick Rude for the U.S. Heavyweight Championship at the last WCW PPV in February, 1992. He lost via a screw job run in from Paul E. Dangerously, dressed in a ninja suit. The latest angle has Ricky with a broken nose, from Rick Rude and the Dangerous Alliance, inflicted after he struck Madusa for interfering in his match. Q. "What happened to Portland Wrestling?" Portland wrestling is still going strong, they just lost their TV sponsor. Portland wrestling is one of the oldest independent promotions in the USA. They have been televised for almost 38 years. Recently, the #1 sponsor of Portland Wrestling, Tom Peterson, had to withdraw his sponsorship due to his Corporation's financial difficulties. Long before Hulk Hogan was invented, Owen's show made household names out of countless hulks. Among them: Tony Borne, Shag Thomas, Haru Sasaki, Billy White Wolf, Playboy Buddy Rose, Ric Flair, Rip Oliver, Dutch Savage, Wild Bill Savage, Ed Wiskoski, Stan "The Crusher" Stasiak, Jimmy Snuka, Sgt. Slaughter, Lord Jonathon Boyd, Beauregard, Sheik Abdullah, Maurice "Mad Dog" Vachon, Kurt Hennig, Mean Mike Miller, the Von Steigers and the Van Poppenheims, Lonnie Mayne, The Masked Assassin, The Grappler, Larry "The Axe" Hennig, Billy Jack Haines, Maniac Matt Borne, Lou Thesz, Andre The Giant, Dorey Funk, Ernie Ladd, Haystack Calhoun, Luther Lindsay and many other fine wrestlers. Q. "What was 'The Crockett Cup'?" The Crockett Cup was a tag-team tournament held every spring from 1986-1988 in the NWA, with the winning team getting $1,000,000. It was in tribute to Jim Crockett Sr. The three teams that have won the Cup are The Road Warriors (1986), Dusty Rhodes & Nikita Koloff (1987), and Sting & Lex Luger (1988). Q. "Who was the missing link?" It was squeaky-clean Toronto babyface Dewey Robertson who was able to put some new life into an almost 20-year career by shaving most of his head, putting on makeup and acting crazy. Dewey, in his rookie year (1965/early 1966) appeared on "Ringside Wrestling" from Hamilton. He wrestled as the masked Crusader in the mid-70s -- wearing all-white trunks and mask and declaring he was crusading for the return of "scientific" wrestling. Back under his real name, he was the top wrestler in Toronto in 1979/early 1980, winning the Canadian title tournament and cleanly defeating AWA champ Nick Bockwinkel and NWA US champion Jimmy Snuka. He also held the Mid-Atlantic tag team title a few times in this period and went on to be one of the top guys in Bob Geigel's Central States promotion before becoming the Missing Link. Q. "What is the difference between a copyright and a trademark?" "Can wrestlers 'copyright' their names?" "Can wrestlers 'trademark' their names?" First thing: copyrights have nothing to do with anything in this discussion. Nobody's name is (or can be) copyrighted. The symbols TM and (R) both stand for trademarks. The difference between the two is that the ones marked with an (R) are REGISTERED trademarks -- a fairly expensive process that really doesn't give you any legal advan- tages (which is why very few wrestlers' names are registered). Usually, the ones marked TM have been FILED (although I don't think you have to file before you can use the TM mark). If you feel like spending $8 a pop, you can look up trademarks through an on-line database. The database contains all registered and filed trademarks in the US (available through CompuServe). Q. "Who were the original Midnight Express?" "Who were the wrestlers in the Midnight Express?" The Original Midnight Express consisted of Randy Rose, Dennis Condrey and Norvell Austin. They worked out of Alabama, originally; Condrey & Rose were the top tag team in 1980-81. At the end of 1981 Condrey, Rose, and Austin went to Memphis as the Midnight Express and wrestled there until the summer of 1982 when they returned to Alabama. For a while in 1983 they wrestled in Alabama as "Midnight Express Inc." and had several other members: the Midnight Stallion (Mongolian Stomper), Ron Starr, Rick Harris (Black Bart) and Wayne Farris (Honkytonk Man). Condrey left Alabama in 1983 and teamed up with Eaton in Mid-South, where they were joined by another guy from Memphis: Jim Cornette. Q. "Who are the bushwhackers and where did they come from?" "Who were the sheepherders and what happened to them?" Once upon a time, there were the evil, manicial, mega-juicing, sheepherders. They consisted of Luke Williams, Butch Miller and Rip Morgan. They functioned as a unit with Morgan playing the third man for six-man tags or as the evil outside manager type. Then one day, there was a US tag title tourney in the NWA. The Sheepheaders looked unstoppable in their quest for the titles. Then came the victory, and immediatly after it, the departure of Williams and Miller for the WWF, where they began the happy and stupid gimmick "The Bushwackers". Rip Morgan was left alone to carry the noble banner of the Sheepherders onward. (That banner usually being a flag to beat people over the head with). There was another man, a man named Jack Victory. Jack Victory, man of a thousand bad gimmicks... Jack, of the famous John Tatum-Jack Victory tag team. At that time, Jack had lost his way and had become "secret service" Jack Victory. Jack went to the ring dressed in green overalls and fought the good fight. Jack and Rip formed the tag team "The New Zealand Militia". They show up occasionally in various places. Mostly minor league promotions. I dont know if they are still active or not. Q. "Why does always say can't wrestle?" Many posters believe that people like Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior cannot wrestle. Neither can Sting, Sid Justice, or quite a few other big namers. The belief stems from an appreciation of talent and workrate, and a dislike of untalented wrestlers being given a push based on "the look" (which can only be attained through steroid abuse). Other posters are not that overly concerned with workrate, and appreciate the angles, interviews, and squash type matches put on by the WWF. I personally like both workrate, interview style, ability to draw heat, and good angles (or well acted bad angles :-) equally, and appreciate any good product that has these elements. For an example of what "workrate" is, watch Jushin Riger in WCW. He was the Light Heavyweight Champion for a few months, recently losing the title to Brian Pillman; Riger is probably one of the most exciting and technically competent wrestlers alive today. Q. "What ever happened to Terry Taylor?" "Was Terry Taylor the 'Red Rooster'?" Terry Taylor is wrestling in WCW as the Taylor Made Man. He did wrestlin in the WWF as the "Red Rooster", but wishes that everyone would just forget about that mistake, which was quite injurious to his career. Notice the spelling for Taylor in "Taylor Made Man". Taylor and Greg Valentine (after being laid off from the WWF and picked up by WCW) were programmed together as a tag team, and actually won a set of straps (the U.S. Tag Team Titles), as a transition team, so they could drop the straps to a face team (The current incarnation of The Freebirds). Q. "Has Dusty Rhodes been reincarnated, or what?" Dusty Rhodes has not been reincarnated. The thing that looks, acts, talks, wrestles, and interviews like him is actually his son Dustin Rhodes (Dustin Runnels). At least he is not as fat as good ol' dad, yet... Actually, Dustin trys very hard, and is getting better and better every day. As he develops his own persona, he will be more exciting to watch. Q. "Where are Crush, Axe, and Smash, from Demolition?" Crush is now back wrestling for the WWF as Crush. He had moved to Don Owens PNW promotion in Portland, Oregon, where he was the heavyweight champ on and off for several months. He also wrestled in Japan during the time he disappeared from the WWF. He was wrestling as "Demolition Crush" and "Crush of Demolition" during his absence. Crush is Brian Adams. Axe (Bill Eadie) was working for the GWF's production staff until about 4 months ago. He was also wrestling as "Axis the Demolisher". Bill was dropped by the WWF because he supposedly is suffering from a heart condition. Bill is no longer with the GWF, and as far as I know, is not currently wrestling. Smash (Barry Darsow) is currently wrestling in the WWF as "The Repo Man." Q. "Where can I get more information about " "Where can I get archived r.s.p-w posts?" Lists of wrestlers REAL names can be requested from several people, including myself. The same is true of lists of wrestling relations, history of titles, and a list of commonly used terminology in r.s.p-w. There is also a mail server where you can do searches and get postings. Send mail to scifi!wrestlesearch@uunet.uu.net with a subject line of 'help' for information. Q. "What happened to the NWA?" The NWA, now almost defunct, has been rechristened the WCW. Rumor has it that WCW may change their name back to NWA, but it has not been substantiated to date. YOu can still see the NWA logo on the WCW broadcasts. Q. "What does CMLL stand for?" CMLL stands for Consejo Mundial de Lucha Libre (World Wrestling Council). CMLL is a wrestling promotion located in Mexico. Q. "What is an international object?" An "international object" is the term used to replace "foreign object" which was the original term used to describe any object (e.g., some brass knuckles) used in a wrestling match (see below). Q. "What does the term mean in all of these posts?" The following terms are commonly used in this newsgroup. These are lifted from a list compiled by Byron C. Howes. The entire list is available to anyone who wants it, via e-mail from myself, and (I assume) Byron as well. ----- FACE noun. & adj. [Babyface] A good guy. HEAT noun. Enthusiasm, a positive response. The WWF uses a heat machine HEEL noun. A bad guy. INTERNATIONAL OBJECT noun. Foreign object, something not allowed in the ring. Derived from an order not to use the word "foreign" by the Turner Broadcasting Companies. JOB noun. A staged loss. A clean job is a staged loss by legal pinfall or submission without resort to illegalities. v.i. To do a job. Sometimes combined with a descriptive adjective (stretcher job, rope job, tights job.) JOBBER noun. An unpushed wrestler who does jobs for pushed wrestlers. Barry Horowitz is probably the best known of these. Sometimes known as fish, redshirts or PLs (professional losers.) JUICE noun. Blood. v.i. to bleed, usually as a result of blading. JUICE noun. Steroids. (Juicer - a steroid user). MARK noun. A member of the viewing audience that believes professional wrestling outcomes are not staged and/or believes the propaganda that is constantly pumped at them by the marketing machines of the various professional wrestling organizations (NWA, WCW, GWF, WWF, etc.) A generally uninformed fan. The opposite of a "smart fan". POP noun. A big fan reaction to a wrestler. PUSH verb. to give a wrestler a series of matches that will improve his standing in the fans' eyes. SCREW-JOB noun. adj. A match or ending which is not clean (definite) due to factors outside the "rules" of wrestling. SHOOT noun. The real thing, i.e. a match where one participant is really attempting to hurt another. The opposite of work or fake. Ignoring the script and going at it for real. Sometimes the booker will tell a wrestler to make it a shoot, in order to teach another wrestler a lesson about what it means to work and do an occasional job. WORKRATE noun. The approximate ratio of good wrestling to rest holds in a match or in a wrestler's performance. ----- Q. "Who is the holder of the r.s.p-w bandwith title?" "What criteria are used to determing the bandwidth champion?" "Who cares about the bandwidth champ anyway?" OB DISCLAIMER: A LOT OF PEOPLE HATE THIS SECTION, THIS TOPIC, AND THE FLAMES THAT HAVE RESULTED FROM DISAGREEING OVER IT. READ IT AT YOUR OWN RISK, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS MY SUBJECTIVE EVALUATION OF THIS FAQ. (: Being the keeper of the FAQ allows me to do things like this :) Well, this is debatable depending on who you think is awarding the title. I personally think it is Herb Kunze (Based on the overwhelming ratio of informational posts to bogus noise posts from Herb). Sean P. Ryan was the original Bandwidth title holder. The "Bandwidth Title" is awarded informally, and without any real voting, to the poster who puts the most information on the r.s.p-w newsgroup. Sean originally won it with a post about why he would never get married... The rules have been modified such that posts like that no longer qualify one for the Bandwidth Title. Only posts having to do with "pro-wrestling" now qualify one for the Bandwidth Title. Posts like the infamous "Marriage and Beer" post only place one in contention for the non-prestigious moniker "Bandwidth Jobber". Fictional posts also fall in the Bandwidth Jobber category. Personally, I think the whole thing has gotten out of hand... and I like the controversy it generates :^} Being the original "awarder" of the titile, I contend that the only WORLD champion is Herb Kunze. Sean P. Ryan, "The Hardcore Alaskan" is a close second. Other contenders this year include Big JOMOSH, Cactus RG, Gary Will, and Dave Fields. Jobbers are bandwidth users that post little of value, as far as REAL professional wrestling is concerned. The Jobbers include the Stilt man, Brian W., and Phil Stromer. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wrestling Relations ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Third Generation Second Generation First Generation ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Doug Gilbert Tommy Gilbert Arlie Gilbert Eddie Gilbert Tommy Gilbert Arlie Gilbert Vince McMahon Vincent J. McMahon Jess McMahon Robert Fuller Buddy Fuller Roy Welch Ron Fuller Buddy Fuller Roy Welch Jimmy Golden Billy Golden Roy Welch ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Second Generation First Generation ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Brad Anderson Gene Anderson Brad Armstrong Bob Armstrong Scott Armstrong Bob Armstrong Steve Armstrong Bob Armstrong Shawn Barr Sandy Barr J.J. Funk Sandy Barr The Juicer Sandy Barr Tully Blanchard Joe Blanchard Maniac Matt Borne Tough Tony Borne Gino Brito, Jr. Gino Brito, Sr. Kerry Brown Bulldog Bob Brown Nick Bockwinkel Warren Bockwinkel Shaun Simpson Sammy Cohen Steve Simpson Sammy Cohen Stuart Simpson Sammy Cohen Flying Fred Curry Wild Bull Curry Abughdadien King Curtis Ted DiBiase Iron Mike DiBiase Jamie Dundee Bill Dundee Dory Funk, Jr. Dory Funk, Sr. Terry Funk Dory Funk, Sr. Greg Gagne Verne Gagne Mike Graham Eddie Graham(*D) Jimmy Garvin Ronnie Garvin (*S) Chavo Guerrero Salvador "Gory" Guerrero (*D) Eddie Guerrero Salvador "Gory" Guerrero (*D) Hector Guerrero Salvador "Gory" Guerrero (*D) Mando Guerrero Salvador "Gory" Guerrero (*D) Nick Patrick Jody Hamilton Bret Hart Stu Hart Bruce Hart Stu Hart Dean Hart (*D) Stu Hart Keith Hart Stu Hart Owen Hart Stu Hart Ross Hart Stu Hart Smith Hart Stu Hart Wayne Hart Stu Hart Curt Hennig Larry Hennig Ted DiBiase Helen Hild Jeff Jarrett Jerry Jarrett Ricky Johnson Rocky Johnson (???) Pat Tanaka Duke Keomuka Kelly Kiniski Gene Kiniski Nick Kinishki Gene Kiniski Brian Christopher Jerry "the King" Lawler Kevin Christian Jerry "the King" Lawler Joey Morella Gorilla Monsoon Ricky Morton Paul Morton Mitsuo Momota Rikidozan Momota (*D) Angelo Mosca, Jr. Angelo Mosca, Sr. Wenona Little Heart Blackjack Mulligan Barry Windham Blackjack Mulligan Kendall Windham Blackjack Mulligan Dick Murdoch Frankie Murdoch Paul E. Dangerously Paul Nabors Larry Oliver Rip Oliver Barry O Robert Orton, Sr. Bob Orton Robert Orton, Sr. Barry Owens Don Owens Miguelito Perez Miguel Perez Lanny Poffo Angelo Poffo Randy Savage Angelo Poffo Scott Putski Ivan Putski Dustin Rhodes Dusty Rhodes Chris Youngblood Ricky Romero Jay Youngblood (*D) Ricky Romero Mark Younglood Ricky Romero Armand Rougeau Jacques Rougeau, Sr. Jacques Rougeau Jacques Rougeau, Sr. Phillipe Rougeau Jacques Rougeau, Sr. Raymond Rougeau Jacques Rougeau, Sr. David Sammartino Bruno Sammartino Iron Mike Sharpe Iron Mike Sharpe, Sr. Sam Houston Grizzly Smith Jake "the Snake" Roberts Grizzly Smith Rockin' Robin Smith Grizzly Smith Luna Vachon Paul "Butcher" Vachon Greg Valentine Johnny Valentine Chris Von Erich (*D) Fritz Von Erich David Von Erich (*D) Fritz Von Erich Kerry Von Erich Fritz Von Erich Kevin Von Erich Fritz Von Erich Mike Von Erich (*D) Fritz Von Erich Nightmare Ken Wayne Buddy Wayne Phillip Watson Whipper Billy Watson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Siblings and Cousins not listed above ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Batten Twins - Bart & Brad (brothers) Jack & Jerry Brisco (brothers) Chris Champion & Mark Starr (brothers) Bobby & Jackie Fulton (brothers) Rick & Robert Gibson (brothers) Hulk Hogan & Horance Boulder (uncle & nephew) Scott "Hogg" (*D) & Wild Bill Irwin (brothers) Ricky & Rocky Johnson (brothers) (different Ricky same Rocky as above) (???) Pat & Mike Kelly (brothers) Jerry Lawler & Honkytonk Man (cousins) Frenchy Martin & Rick Martel (brother) Raul & Carlos Matta (?)(brothers) Vince McMahon & Miss Elizabeth (uncle & niece) Bill & Dan Miller (?) (brothers) Ricky & Todd Morton (cousins) Bill & Randy Mulkey (brothers) Al & Lou Perez (brothers) Jose (*D) & Miguel Perez (brothers) Terry & Paul Orndorff (brothers) Johnny & Tommy Rich (brothers) Jacques Sr. & Johnny Rougeau (brothers) Ephriam & Nora Rotter (brother & sister) Brett Wayne & Buzz Sawyer (*D) (brothers) George & Sandy Scott (?) (brothers) Ben & Iron Mike, Sr. Sharpe (brothers) Ricky "the Dragon" & Victor Steamboat (brothers) Rick & Scott Steiner (brothers) Gyoji "George" & Shunji Takano (brothers) LOD Animal, Johnny Ace, & The Terminator (brothers) Chris & John Tolos (brothers) Marie, Maurice "Mad Dog", Paul "Butcher" & Vivian (*D)Vachon (sister & brothers) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wrestling Marriages ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Bassarab & a Hart sister Bobby Eaton & Bill Dundee's daughter Jimmy Garvin & Precious Eddie Gilbert & Madusa Micelli Eddie Gilbert & Missy Hyatt (divorced) Kurt Hennig & a Hart sister Sam Houston & Baby Doll Jerry Jarrett & Eddie Marlin's daughter Jim Neidhart & another Hart sister Joe Pedicino & Bonnie Blackstone Dusty Rhodes & Tugboat are brothers-in-law Mike Rotunda & Blackjack Mulligan's daughter (Wenona Little Heart?) Randy Savage & Miss Elizabeth Dick Slater & Luna Vachon (divorced) Davey Boy Smith & still another Hart sister (Diana) Adrian Street & Miss Linda Kevin Sullivan & Woman Larry Zbyskzo & Cathy Gagne (Verne's daughter) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Not Kin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Arn, Gene, Lars, & Ole Anderson (not brothers) The Andersons & Ric Flair (not cousins) The Beverely Brothers (not brothers) Jimmy & Ronnie Garvin (not brothers, but father & step-son) Hulk Hogan & Brutus Beefcake (not brothers) Great Kabuki & Great Muta (not father & son) (Dory & Terry Funk) and Jimmy Jack Funk(Barr) (not cousins) Superstar Billy, Eddie(*D), Dr. Jerry, & Crazy Luke Graham (not brothers) Mike & Don Harris (not brothers) Ivan & Nikita Koloff (not uncle & nephew) Rick Martel & Sherri Martell (not brother & sister) Johnny & Tommy Rich and Davey Rich (not cousins) Ricky & Tito Santana (not brothers) Ricky "the Dragon" & Sam Steamboat (not father & son) Fritz & Waldo Von Erich (not brothers) Lance & all the Von Erichs (not cousins) NONE of the Valiant 'brothers' are related: Jimmy Valiant is James Valen. Johnny Valiant is Thomas Sullivan. Jerry Valiant is Jerry Heenan (brother of Bobby). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Samoans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wild Samoans - Afa & Sika Anoia (brothers) Afa & SST Samu (father & son) Sika & Kokina Maximus (father & son) Solafa Fatu (SST Fatu) & Sam Fatu (The Samoan Savage) (brothers) The Fatu Brothers are Sika's nephews ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *D -- No longer living *S -- Step relationship ============================================================================= The WWF Wrestlers and Managers List: ============================================================================= WRESTLING NAME OTHER WRESTLING REAL NAME AGE YEARS (NICK)NAMES PRO ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andre The Giant The Eighth Wonder Andre Rousimoff 45 27 Of The World Barbarian Powers of Pain John Fuvola 35 11 Konga The Barbarian Beefcake, Brutus The Barber Ed Leslie 32 13 The Dream Team Ed Boulder Berzerker Nord the Barbarian John Nord Big Boss Man Big Bubba Rogers Raymond Traylor 28 6 Bravo, Dino Canadian Strongman Adolpho Brescino 44 23 Brooklyn Brawler Steve Lombardi Steve Lombardi 29 7 Brother Love Bruce Pritchard ? ? Brunzell, Jim Jumping Jim James Brunzell 42 19 Killer Bees High Flyers Colonel Mustafa Iron Sheik Hossein Vaziri 52 18 Demolition Crush Brian Adams Brian Adams 28 5 Demolition Smash Krusher Kruschev Barry Darsow 31 9 DiBiase, Ted Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase 38 18 Duggan, Jim Hacksaw James Duggan 38 14 Earthquake Canadian John Tenta 28 5 Earthquake Elizabeth The First Lady Elizabeth Poffo 31 6 of Wrestling General Adnon Sheik Adnon Kaissie Adnon Kaisy 59 32 GobbledyGooker Hector Guerrero Hector Guerrero 34 14 Lazertron Haku Colossal Uliuli Fifita 32 14 Connection Islanders King Tonga Hart, Bret Hitman Hart, Bret 34 15 Hart Foundation Hart, Jimmy Mouth of The South Hart, Jimmy 48 14 Heenan, Bobby Brain, Weasel Raymond Heenan 48 25 Hennig, Curt Mr. Perfect Curt Hennig 33 13 Hercules Hercules Hernandez Ray Fernandez 34 12 Power & Glory Hillbilly Jim James Morris 34 9 Hulk Hogan Sterling Golden Terry Bollea 38 15 Terry Boulder Janetty, Marty Rockers Marty Janetty 29 9 Midnight Rockers Kato Orient Express Thomas Boric 30 8 Paul Diamond Badd Company Hard Rock Konan ?? ? ? LOD Animal Road Warriors Joe Laurinidas 32 9 LOD Hawk Road Warriors Michael Hegstrand 34 9 Martel, Rick Model Richard Vignault 35 20 Strike Force Can Am Connection nn Michaels, Shawn Rockers Mike Hickenbottom 26 8 Midnight Rockers Miller, Butch Bushwhackers Robert Miller 47 25 Sheepherders Mountie Jacques Rougeau, Jr. 31 13 Mr. Fuji Harry Fujiwara 55 33 Nasty Boy Nobbs Brian Nobbs 27 5 Nasty Boy Sags Jerry Seganovich 27 5 Neidhart, Jim Anvil James Neidhart 36 13 Hart Foundation Piper, Roddy Hot Rod Roderick Toombs 3? 1? Rowdy Pringle, Percy William Moody 37 17 Roberts, Jake The Snake Aurelian Smith, Jr. 36 15 Roma, Paul Romeo Paul Centopani 31 9 Power & Glory Rose, Buddy Playboy Paul Perschmann 42 18 Doughboy Santana, Tito Chico Merced Solis 37 16 Strike Force Savage, Randy Macho King Randy Poffo 39 17 Macho Man Sgt. Slaughter Robert Remus 43 18 Shyster, Irwin R. Michael Michael Rotunda 33 10 Wallstreet Captain Varsity Club Slick Ken Johnson 4? 6 Smith, Davey Boy British Bulldogs David Smith 29 13 Snuka, Jimmy Superfly James Reiher 48 23 Steamboat, Ricky The Dragon Richard Blood 38 16 Tanaka, Pat Orient Express Patric Tanaka 28 6 Sensei Badd Company Tugboat Tugboat Thomas Fred Ottman 35 7 US Steele Undertaker Mean Mark Mark Calaway ? ? Callas Skyscrapers Master of Pain Von Erich, Kerry Texas Tornado Kerry Adkisson 31 14 Modern Day Warrior Ware, Koko B. Birdman James Ware 33 15 PYTs Warlord Powers of Pain Terry Szopinski 29 7 Ultimate Warrior Bladerunner Rock James Hellwig 33 6 Freedom Fighter Justice Williams, Luke Bushwhackers Brian Wicker 45 19 Sheepherders ============================================================================= ============================================================================ The WCW Wrestlers and Managers List: ============================================================================= WRESTLING NAME OTHER WRESTLING REAL NAME AGE YEARS (NICK)NAMES PRO ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Iron Eagle ?? ? ? Anderson, Arn Four Horsemen Marty Lunde 33 10 Enforcer Double A Brainbusters Armstrong, Brad Candy Man Brad James 30 10 Armstrong, Steve Southern Boys Steve James 26 7 Big Cat Curtis Hughes ?? ? ? Big Van Vader Leon "Baby Bull" Leon White 35 6 White Cameron, Larry Lethal Larry Cameron 39 4 Cuban Assassin El Diablo David Sierra 4? 23 Dangerously, Paul Paul Heyman 26 5 Eaton, Bobby Beautiful Bobby Lee Eaton 33 16 Midnight Express El Gigante Jorge Gonzalez ?? 1 Flair, Ric Nature Boy Richard Fliehr 41 19 Garvin, Jimmy Freebird James Williams 37 16 Gorgeous Hansen, Stan The Lariat John Hansen 42 19 Hart, Owen Blue Blazer Owen Hart 25 5 Hayes, Michael Freebird Michael Seitz 32 14 Purely Sexy Horner, Tim Tim Horner 31 10 Junk Yard Dog Junk Food Dog ;-) Sylvester Ritter ? ? Koloff, Nikita Russian Nightmare Scott Simpson 31 7 Long, Theodore R. Teddy Long ?? ? ? Luger, Lex Total Package Larry Pfohl 33 6 Four Horsemen Mantell, Dutch Dirty Wayne Kowan 39 17 Master Blaster Kevin Nash ? 1 Steele Morton, Ricky Rock'n'Roll Express Richard Morton 35 13 Pillman, Brian Flyin' Brian Pillman 29 5 Bad Company Reed, Butch Doom Bruce Reed 37 13 Hacksaw The Natural Rhodes, Dustin Dustin Runnels 22 3 Rich, Tommy Wildfire Tom Richardson 35 17 Shreeve, Larry Abdullah "The Larry Shreeve ?? ?? Butcher" Simmons, Ron Doom Ron Simmons 32 5 Smothers, Tracy Southern Boys Tracy Smothers 28 9 Mason-Dixon Connection Steiner, Rick Dog-faced Gremlin Rob Rechsteiner 30 7 Varsity Club Steiner, Scott Wild Thing Scott Rechsteiner 29 6 Sting Bladerunner Sting Steve Borden 32 6 Freedom Fighter Flash Sullivan, Kevin Slaughterhouse Kevin Sullivan 43 22 Varsity Club Taylor, Terry Red Rooster Paul Taylor 36 13 Vicious, Sid Four Horsemen Sidney Eudy 31 5 Skyscrapers Lord Humongous Windham, Barry Four Horseman Barry Windham 31 12 Widow Maker Zbyszko, Larry Living Legend Larry Whistler 38 18 Zenk, Tom Z-Man Tom Zenk 33 8 Can-Am Connection ============================================================================ Please post or e-mail any corrections or suggestions to: -- __ Chris F. 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